Knight Family – Timber Pioneers of Bulli Mountain

Based on information posted by caffran64 in Mundia  :

The information passed down in the Knight family indicates that George Knight (1806 Petworth England – 1881 Bulli) , his second wife Rebecca, and their family arrived in Sydney on the Neptune as Bounty immigrants. George was engaged as a carpenter and sent south to Shellharbour, also working as a carpenter around Dapto and Jamberoo. With him was William Dumbrell, who would later marry Harriett Dearling, sister of George’s second wife, Rebecca Dearling, according to Robert Dumbrell, in his “The Story of William Dumbrell, and his Family in the Illawarra“.

George had previously married Mary Ann Bassett in England, with whom he had four children

  • Joseph Knight, first born, baptised at Brighton, born April 23, 1830- died 1862 Kiama in a timber accident – had married in 1856 to Elizabeth Dorrough –  Elizabeth remarried in 1867 to Robert Young Arthur, and bore additional children. Trove list for Joseph Knight.
    • George Knight (1857 – 1929) married in 1885 to  Julia Cordroy
    • Matilda Knight (1858 – 1940) married in 1884 to John McCosh Hewitson, Coachbuilder & Motor Trader – 50th Wedding Anniversary – his memoirs
    • Martha Knight (1860 – 1945 Lismore) married to Henry Jarman
    • Joseph Knight (1862 – 1936 Lismore) married to Amy Athelia Walker ( – 1927)
      • Thelma P Knight (1906 Lismore – )
      • Beryl G Knight (1908 Lismore – ) married B W East
      • Nevyl Joseph Knight (1910 Lismore – 1911 Lismore)
      • Earl George Knight (1913 Lismore – 1914 Lismore)
      • Mervyn Knight
      • Gordon Knight
      • Cecil Knight
  • Sarah Ann Knight born at Sheabour Gloucestershire, November 2, 1832 married William Win(d)ley in 1850, son of William Win(d)ley and Martha Nicholls, daughter of First Fleeter John Nicols and Ann Pugh
    • William Winley (1851 – 1927) married Rebecca Alexander
      • Samuel William Winley (1876 – 1935 ) married Emily Bray
      • James Alexander Winley (1878 – 1975) married Edah Gray
      • Sarah Jane Winley (1880 – 1910 ) married James Findlay
      • Clara Emily Winley (1883 – 1913 ) married Albert Williams
      • George Wesley Winley ((1884 – 1974) married Elizabeth Tidmarsh in 1911
      • Lindsay Joseph Winley (1886 – 1888)
      • Annie Rebecca Winley ( 1890 – 1966)
      • Alicia May Winley (1892 – 1917) married Frederick Guest
    • Joseph Winley (1853 – ) married in 1883 [1] Elizabeth Ann Tidmarsh and [2] Margaret Jane Simpson
      • Florence May Winley (1881 – )
      • Ernest William Winley (1884 – 1955)
      • Emily Annie Winley (1886 – 1968) married Oswald Healey
      • George Arthur Winley (1888 – 1961) – married Elizabeth Ikin
      • Eva Jane Winley (1892 – 1975 ) married Ira L Parsons
      • Clara Edith Winley (1894 – 1967) married  Albert E Fritz, son of John Fritz and Elizabeth M Fritz nee Blinkco
    • George Winley (1856 – ) – sawyer and bullocky for Knights Mill at Sherbrooke married Susan Flood
      • Charles Robert William Carrington Winley (1886 – ) married Edith Collins
      • Daisy Ethel Winley (1888 – ) married Arthur H Bissell
      • Aubrey George Franklin Winley (1892 – ) married Gladys Maude Bott – pulled logs down from Foxground for his sawmill at Wollongong
        • Gladys Audrey Winley married Colin Mettam
        • June Cynthia Winley married Les Potter
        • Keith Lloyd Winley married Joy Townsend
        • Norma Adeline Winley married Eric Samways
        • Coral Daisy Winley married Colin Littlejohns
        • Beryl Maud Winley married Alan Ducksbury
        • Milton Winley married Edith Wellington
        • Julia Lynette Winley married Kevin Brown
        • Bruce Harrold Winley married Rosemary Jarvis
        • Alan George Winley married Ricky Zaitis
      • Mabel Lilian Winley (1890 – ) married James Chinnock
      • Wa1lter Preston Winley (1892 – ) married Margaret Cleland Stevenson
    • Clara Ann Winley (1858 – 1939 ) married Philip Malzard
    • Priscilla Emaline Winley ( 1861- ) married W J Newing
    • Ellizabeth Jemima Winley (1864 -) married T H Newing
    • Charles Rufus Winley ( 1866 – ) married Annie Smith
    • Emily Kate Winley (1869 – ) married Hubert Faulks
    • Mary Ann Martha Winley (1871 – ) married William Keever
  • Kate Knight, born at Lodsworth, Sussex England February 20th 1834 married in 1859 to Thomas Jarrett died 1870 Broughton Vale – buried at Berry
  • George Knight, born at Dorking, 26 May 1841 died infant ?

Following Mary Ann’s death, and while still in England, George married a second time to Rebecca Gregory nee Dearling with whom he had 10 more  children

  • John Knight born at Shell Harbour Illawarra March 17th 1844 – died 1919 married Ellen Pearson
    • Lucy Ellen Knight (1865 Wollongong – ) married Henry Carey/Carry Turner
    • Clara Adeline Knight (1867 Wollongong – )
    • John James Knight (1869 – ) married Alice Gray
    • George Henry Knight (1870 – 1950 Lismore ) married Alice Lewis
    • Emmeline Rebecca Knight ( 1872 – 1944) married William Bushland
    • Rose Hannah Knight (1874 – 1955) married Harry Booth (18 70 – 1940 Mackay Qld – 1, 2, ), a son of Henry Booth and his wife Sarah Craddock
      • Harold Edgar Booth  (1891 – 1977 ) – served in WW1 – later lived in Melbourne –1,
      • John Stanley  Booth (1900 – 1971 Mackay) married Doreen
      • Annie Beryl Booth (1905 – )married Vic H Barnhill (Leeton)
      • Iris Booth married W Lionel Jones (Mackay)
      • Eileen Rose Booth  (1911 – 1913)
      • Harry R Booth (1911 – 1911 ?)
    • Elizabeth Anne Knight  ( 1876 Sherbrooke – 1946 Lismore) married Frederick Crowther (1875 – Stockton England – 1950 Lismore)
      • John Frederick Crowther (1900 Woonona –  1971 Lismore)
      • Arthur William Ewart Crowther (1902 Woonona – 1985 Lismore)
      • Lily Elizabeth Crowther (1904 – 1990 Lismore) married Oliver Beith Wilson (1903 Lismore – 1978 Lismore)
      • Mary Ellen Crowther  (1906 Lismore – ) married (1) William Gatenby and (2) Richard James Mort
      • George Crowther (1906 Lismore – 1906 Lismore)
      • Charles Arnold Crowther (1908 Lismore – 1996 Lismore)
      • Marjorie Alice May Crowther (1911 Lismore – 2003 Richmond) married Harold Johnson
      • Thomas Franklin Crowther (1914 Lismore – )
    • Ellen Lavinia Knight (1879 -1965 ) married to Henry William McCauley in 1903
    • Arthur Joseph Knight (1881 – 1920 Dorroughby ) married Ethel Dawes
    • Florence Evelyn Knight (1883 – 1974) married James Collett
    • Alice Zilpah Knight ( 1885 – 1909 ) married  James Montgomery
    • Elsie May Knight (1888 – 1947 Lismore) married Frederick Pearson
    • Earnest Albert Knight ( 1888 – ) married Stella Claydon
    • Maurice James Knight (1890 – ) married Millicent Fanny Risk
  • Thomas Knight born at Jamberoo January 31, 1846 – married in 1868  to [1] Cecilia Cavill (Covell) and [2] in 1885 to Elizabeth Smith
    • Emily Harriet Knight (1869 – ) married Andrew Ramsey Bayne Downey
    • Albert G Knight  (1887 – )
    • William Thomas Knight (1892 – )
    • Gladys V N Knight (1894 – )
  • Alfred Knight born at Jamberoo February 8th 1848 – died 1903 Sherbrooke – Sawmiller at Sherbrooke married to Harriet Lucock (Hocock)
    • Edwin G Knight (1883 Sherbrooke – 1964 )
    • Kate Louisa Knight (1885 Sherbrooke – 1953)
    • Daisy Lily Dearling Knight (1888 Sherbrooke – 1968) married William Henry Jenkin
  • Franklyn Knight born Jamberoo August 11th, 1849 married Bridget Smith
    • George Herbert F Knight (1880 – ) married Edith Jane “Edie” Musgrave daughter of Sherbrooke’s Elizabeth Brown and her husband Thomas Musgrave
      • Edith Eileen Knight (1907 – 1996) married Alexander Crichton (1899 – 1996)
        • Joan Eileen Crichton (1934 – 1996)
        • Jeanettte Lorraine Crichton (1938 – 1979) married Bruce Paris (1936 – ) married Warren Kyle Williams & Francis Gordon Berriman
        • Pamela Joy Crichton ( 1945 – 1993)
      • Kenneth Rex Knight (1909 – 2002)
      • Rita Irene Knight (1912 – 1997)
      • Ronald Keith Knight (1915 – 2000) married Vida Ruth Tomkins (1916 – 2003) – he served as a Lieutenant in WW2
    • Ethel Elizabeth Knight (1882 Bulli Mountain – ) married Albert C Brown
    • William Stanley Knight (1884 or 86 6 Sherbrooke – 1935 Albion Park) married Annie Lily Armstrong
      • Ivan Franklin Knight (1914 – d. 1942 Sri Lanka Ceylon buried Kanatee War Cemetery Sri Lanka)
      • Lora Doreen Knight -(1926 – ) – married [1] Samuel James Dally – married [2] Francis Russel Gay
      • Lloyd Raydon Knight (1931 – ) married Nancy Rose Akers
    • David Preston Knight (1887 Sherbrooke – 1971 Albion Park) married in 1918 to Mary Ann Lilian Johnston
      • Thelma Knight (1921 – ) married in 1944 to Ray O’Gorman
      • Vydae Knight ( (1929 – ) married in 1956 to Mervyn Swann
    • Ila E Knight (1891 – ) married George Harding
  • Felix Knight born at Jamberoo July 15th 1851 – died 1932 Kiama – school teacher – married to Elizabeth Ross
    • Ivy Lilian Knight ( 1882 Milton – 1926)  married William Robb
    • Lizzie Adeline Knight ( 1883 Burrill Lake – ) married John Brown
    • Alice M Knight ((1885 – 1886)
    • Elsie Isobel Knight ( 1888 – 1960) married Rupert George Alcorn Knight
    • Stella M Ross Knight (1891 Duramana – 1977 ) married to Stephen Gordon Smith
    • Cora Mabel Knight (1893 Duramana – ) married George King
  • Edwin Knight born at Jamberoo February 14th 1853 – died 1933 Hornsby –  married [1] in 1881 to Sophia Turner (1855 – 1912) and [2] Matilda Jane Scott. Edwin had been a teacher before moving to live at Sherbrooke. Neither Sophia’s 1912 obituary nor Edwin’s 1933 obituary mention any children, although Edwin’s mentions nieces as well as his brother Felix

(Note it had been thought the Sherbrooke Edwin Knight was active in the Bulli Hospital Committee, and had taken in 3 orphans of Susannah Lawler nee Clarke ( – 1878) and William Williams who was killed in the 1887 Bulli Mine Disaster  – Frances Fanny Williams married Smithers; Henry Williams; and Elizabeth Lizzie Williams – Knight.

However we have been advised that there were two Edwin Knight’s in the Bulli – Woonona – Sherbrooke areas of the Northern Illawarra  – and that it was the other one, a miner, who with his wife, Emma Turley ( – 1921), who adopted Lizzie, and took in her two older siblings. Edwin Knight the miner died in 1934 at Dangar Island. Note – the Coalminer Edwin Knight’s 1934 obituary mentions the death approximately 10 years earlier in 1924 of his daughter Elizabeth Larkin nee Knight.)

  • Walter Knight born at Jamberoo August 5th 1855 – died 1903 married Mary Jane Moore
    • Sarah Bertha Knight (1890 – )
    • Gladys Ruby Knight ((1896 – )
  • Rhoda Knight  born Jarrawangla April 16th 1857 married Richard Dick Pinkerton
  • Lydia Knight born Jarrawangla, April 16th 1859 – died 1931 – married to Frederick John James “Fred” Brown
    • Oswald J Brown b 1881  married Dot Quirk
    • Harold George Brown b. 1882 married Alice Prentice
    • Effie Nerida Brown born 1884 married William Matthewson
    • William Ambrose Brown b. 1886 married Katie Ryan
    • Ethel May Brown b.1888 married Lionel Giffoll
    • Ambrose Oliver Brown b. 1891 married Mary Murnane
    • Eric Roy Brown b. 1893 married Elsie Bullock
    • Ella Marjorie Brown b. 1898 married John Partridge
    • Sarah Alma Brown b.1900 married Jack Townsend
    • Linda Myrtle Brown b.1902 married Colin H McLeod
  • David Knight born Milton Ulladulla June 11th 1861 – died Lismore 1951 – married in 1892 to to Alice Gra(i)nger
    • Cecil Charles Knight (1894 – 1965)  by 1940 he was active in the Australian Pig Breeders Association – married in 1928 to Mary Alice E McKenzie daughter of Peter and Eliza Jane McKenzie
    • Reginald David Knight (1896 Woonona – ) – enlisted in 1917 – embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A29 Suevic on 21 June 1917 served in Machine Gun Company 13, Reinforcement 13 & 41st Battalion – returned to Australia in 1919 – married  in 1939 to Evelyn Rhoda Whitten
    • Horace G Knight (1897 Woonona – ) married in 1920 to Doris Carllil
    • Alice Mary Knight (1900 Woonona – 1947) married in 1922 to William Kennedy
    • Franklyn Granger Frank Knight (1906 Lismore – ) married in 1945 to Dorothy Keast

And following Rebecca Knight nee Dearling’s death George Knight married a third time to a widow Anna Phillips (Gange nee Dearling ?) and there may have been another four children. And it was around that time that Rebecca’s sister Harriett Dumbrell moved with her own family to Sherbrooke.

By the late 1850’s George had moved further south with his ever growing family to Jarrawangla , and then to- Milton Ulladulla – becoming the Post Master, and established an unsuccessful flour mill. Following the failure of the mill, the family moved to Bulli around 1861-1863, where it is believed he became a carpenter in the local mine (s).

Family lore has it that George “bought land at Sherbrooke later and this land was held under the Old Title. He willed it to his surviving sons, their descendants collected ‘coal money’ royalties on the coal mined under the land until the 1980s.”

Note – there had been a suggestion that Oliver Herbert Knight was descended from the Sherbrook Knight’s. However a member of the Sherbrooke Knight’s queried this and further investigation suggests that he was not or the family of George Knight whose family had been at Sherbrooke – thanks for the correction !!

Oliver Herbert Knight (1891 Wollongong – 1973 Gosford) son of William Knight and Ellen Bridges who married Mary Maude Bassett ?? – appointed Court Bailiff in Lismore i n 1930  – appointed JP in 1936 of Hay Courthouse

It is interesting to read of the various families of early European Bulli days, where both men and boys came to work in the mines, then later on moved onto timber, coaching inns or running stores. The Knight family went on to be successful in the timber industry at Sherbrooke …. see map below for land ownership of the Knights.

Sherbrooke at time of resumption - Lots 128, 129, 150, 151, 157

Sherbrooke at time of resumption – Knights had  Lots 128, 129, 150, 151, 157

In his book, Beyond Bulli (pages 108-110), Michael Adams described how Edwin Knight was “a member of a family of timber workers who pioneered Bulli Mountain Settlement, later to become Sherbrooke …. timber cutters and merchants… born in 1853 at Jamberoo, one of 10 sons to George Knight, eight of whom established timber mills and settled on Bulli Mountain… about 1867 the Knights moved to Bulli Mountain… the Knights first of all opened a saw pit, then a steam engine mill to harvest the turpentine timber, on the Cataract Road..

One of the Knight descendants, Cecil Knight-Cavill was killed in the 1887 Bulli Mine Disaster – he was aged only 14 years old.

Gravestones of Sherbrooke residents including Cecil Knight-Cavill at St Augustine's Bulli

Gravestones of Sherbrooke residents including Cecil Knight-Cavill at St Augustine’s Bulli (at right end – rear row)

The Knight’s seem to have been one of the early families particularly associated with Bulli Mountain, later called Sherbrooke, with many of its family members living there at various times and across a number of generations …

Westie Hapgood, in his book “Deep Valleys, Tall Trees, Tough Men and Women“, refers to the following families in Sherbrooke in its early days  – Reeve, Blinkco, Hunt, Haberley, Campbell, Dumbrell, Fritz, Spinks, Wales, Candie, Wilson, Keens, Lovedays and Browns. He wrote of (John) Franklin Knight building a saw mill at Sherbrooke in 1878, where George Winley, Mr Parsons, Woods brothers were involved with the business along with Franklin Knight’s brothers. A second saw mill was built in 1884, and had a two-foot gauge tramway. Westie Hapgood described five Knight families at Sherbrooke –  brothers Alfred, Felix, Edwin, Franklin and Thomas Knight and they were active both in Sherbrooke’s Union Church and also the Bulli Methodist Church. After Sherbrooke was resumed, some of the Knights moved down the mountain to Bulli and others up to Mortdale in Sydney.

Bill Bayley in his “Black Diamonds” described how “Sherbrooke prospered on the Bulli Mountain… Knight Brothers Mill continued to cut timber from the forests…. Franklin Knight converted 7 acres ..  to  potato growing … William Loveday, Thomas Knight and William Dumbrell (Jnr?) working on shares. Knight’s corn crop drew visitors from Bulli who went to husk the crop.”

Further information on the Knight family of Sherbrooke from the Illawarra Family History Group’s Illawarra Pioneers Pre 1900 – but refers to Bulli rather than Bulli Mountain or Sherbrooke – and refers to George Knight being at Bulli at the time of his death on 28.03.1881.

The Illawarra Family History Group’s Illawarra Pioneers Pre 1920 lists :

  • Edwin Knight as being born 13.7.1883 to Alfred Knight (son of George Knight) and his wife Harriet Lucock – likewise his sisters – Kate Louisa born at Sherbrooke on 12.5.1885 & Daisy Lily Dearling born at Sherbrooke on 26.9.1888
  • David Knight, son of George Knight and Rebecca Dearling, living for a time at Sherbrooke

Family of John Knight and wife Ellen Pearson :

  • Clara Adeline Knight was born to John and Ellen Knight at Sherbrooke on 19.8.1867 and married George Ernest James Chaseling who was part of the Vidler Family
  • The Fredrick Crowther Family Tree lists Elizabeth Ann Knight born at Sherbrooke 15.2.1876 to John Knight and wife Ellen Pearson – Elizabeth married Frederick Crowther (31.8.1875 Durham UK – 18.1.1950 Lismore) on 2.10.1899 at Bulli. Elizabeth died on 5.4.1946 in Lismore
  • Florence E Knight was born to John and Ellen Knight in 1883 at Sherbrooke and married James Thomas Collett in Woonona in 1901 – they had 9 children – 4 were born at Bulli, Appin and Sherbrooke, 2 at Alstonville, Ballina and 3 in Queensland. James Collett was born to Arthur Collett and wife Rebecca Jane Sutherland  on 4.12.1880 at Macquarie Dale Appin – his father Arthur was born at Elladale Appin on 5.5.1848 – the Collett’s could trace their ancestry in the Appin-Campbelltown area back to 1797

8 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Susan Ducsbury on April 27, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    Great info my name is Susan Ducksbury my Mum Beryl’s maiden name is Winley, I see her listed above.

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  2. hi Susan – I am very interested in the Winley’s – I have met some of the family and one was a bridesmaid to my uncle & auntie’s wedding – so we are connected if not blood relations

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  3. Posted by Susan Ducsbury on June 28, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Hi Kerrie Anne as I said my Mum is Bery.She was born at Haberfield in Sydney but the family including her 9 brothers and sisters lived at Thirroul and later Coniston. My grandad had a timberyard in Wollongong.

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  4. Posted by Susan Ducsbury on June 28, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    Yes, Coral is my Mum’s sister, my Auntie

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  5. Posted by John Millen on January 19, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Very interesting,a bit of missed detail. my grandmother Lucy Ellen Knight,married Wlliam Alfred Millen, she died 1947 in Bulli

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    • Posted by John Millen on January 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm

      Sorry error. Lucy Ellen Knight married Henry Carey Turner, they had a daughter Caroline Ellen Turner who married William Alfred Millen. I have Lucy Ellen Knight died 1939.
      regards

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      • thanks for the corrections John Millen – I have started to update the page – fixed Lucy and Henry’s marriage detail and also taken Oliver Herbert Knight out of the Sherbrooke Knight’s family tree.

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